Re: [rfc-i] Example RFC numbers?

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Tue, 22 August 2023 12:31 UTC

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On 2023-08-21, at 22:40, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Amen to that. The leading zeros have always seemed like an odd choice
> to me, almost as if they were designed for the punched card era of
> computing. Are they used anywhere except the RFC index?

In RFCs, I find (*) about 4000 three-digit RFCnnn constructs, and about 9000 RFC0nnn constructs.  Yes, they are in use in our documents.

BTW, RFCnnn (counting occurrences, not documents):

1278 RFC822 Mail message format
 473 RFC791 IP
 472 RFC793 TCP
 219 RFC792 ICMP
 199 RFC826 ARP
 191 RFC768 UDP

Grüße, Carsten

(*) non-scientific