[rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Erratums/Errata
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Subject: [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Erratums/Errata
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This bugs me too. I always try to use erratum for the singular. On 11/18/25 5:55 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Then there's the solecism of using "errata" as a singular noun. > > It's more than half a century since I was forced to learn Latin, but > errata about "erratum" still annoy me. > > We could of course change to English, where errors about "error" are > less likely. > > Regards/Ngā mihi > Brian Carpenter > > On 19-Nov-25 11:45, Rob Sayre wrote: >> Hi, wrong list. RSWG to BCC. >> >> When I went to find the list address here, I saw "Errata" on the RFC >> Editor page. I don't have a strong opinion, but I would like to pick >> one for the common cases. >> >> thanks, >> Rob >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 2:07 PM Scudder, John <john.scudder@hpe.com >> <mailto:john.scudder@hpe.com>> wrote: >> >> For what it’s worth, my dictionary gives both “forums” or “fora” >> as acceptable pluralizations of “forum”, but only “errata” for “erratum”. >> >> Does the style guide have to say “use accepted dictionary >> spellings” (for things that have them) or is this understood? >> >> —John >> >> > On Nov 18, 2025, at 4:39 PM, Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com >> <mailto:sayrer@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > This issue always seems to arise. To my ear, "Forums" sounds >> fine, but "Erratums" does not. >> > >> > No matter. Can we get this issue covered in the style guide if >> it's not already there? >> > >> > thanks, >> > Rob >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rfc-interest mailing list -- rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to rfc-interest-leave@rfc-editor.org > _______________________________________________ > rfc-interest mailing list -- rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > To unsubscribe send an email to rfc-interest-leave@rfc-editor.org
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Christian Huitema
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Bob Hinden
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Carsten Bormann
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Bob Hinden
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Rob Sayre
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Rob Sayre
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] Re: [Rswg] Forum/Forums/Fora, Erratum/Err… Brian E Carpenter