Re: [rfc-i] draft-kuehlewind-update-tag comments

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Wed, 25 March 2020 23:00 UTC

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> On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
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> I "feel" that it would be better not to try to solve our issues
> nly with as few as possible tags, but also ponder what a good
> amendment/extensions text in an RFC should look like.

IMO the latter is better guidance. We need less process, not more. ESP given we have no compliance requirements. Tags are not a solution. 

Joe
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