Re: [Rfced-future] Why the RFC series is important

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 26 May 2020 22:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Why the RFC series is important
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On 27-May-20 09:09, John R Levine wrote:
> On Tue, 26 May 2020, Colin Perkins wrote:
>> This is the real problem – not whether the revision to RFC XXXX is called RFC YYYY or RFC XXXX.v2.
> 
> The specs for a mail server or a DNS server are spread across dozens of 
> RFCs and errata.
> 
> Do you foresee an approval process lightweight enough that we could sweep 
> all of the DNS specs into 1034bis or all of the mail specs into 5321bis 
> and 5322bis?

This really was addressed in depth quite some years ago:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04

The short answer is no, the process would not be lightweight, and no, the IETF would not sweep all the specs for a complex system into a couple of RFCs. But the IETF would attempt to document the complexity.

And there are examples, which happen to cover part of the mail system:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-newtrk-sample-isd-00

For our present purposes, IMHO the RFC Series should be willing to support such a mechanism, if and only if the IETF is willing to make the effort.

    Brian