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Re: [Rfced-future] Community input

Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Wed, 25 November 2020 17:01 UTC

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From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Community input
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Carsten, 

I think you make an excellent point about how free-range discussions can go in this/any community when opinions are held more strongly than the desire to reach consensus, and when the exposition of all the parameters is not clear.

This is a salutary lesson for us, and your point is well made (to me). 

The flip side of some form of delegation (i.e., not leaving it up to the community) is that there is a risk that, no matter how strongly you hold your opinion and how loudly you shout, you might not get what you want. I believe that that is a risk I am willing to take (with some safeguards about firing and steering).

A

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From: Rfced-future <rfced-future-bounces@iab.org> On Behalf Of Carsten Bormann
Sent: 25 November 2020 16:40
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Subject: [Rfced-future] Community input

For a good view at the skeptical components of my stance on running the publishing activity entirely based on “community input”, please see these messages.  

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?q=retiring+ftp+service

All 196 of them.

And when you are done, please keep in mind that this is only a revival of an attempt in 2015 to retire IETF’s FTP service, which (attempt) was eventually abandoned.
We continue to offer FTP access to our documents.

Grüße, Carsten

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