Re: [rmcat] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-rmcat-video-traffic-model-06: (with COMMENT)
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From: "Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu)" <xiaoqzhu@cisco.com>
To: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: [rmcat] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-rmcat-video-traffic-model-06: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [rmcat] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-rmcat-video-traffic-model-06: (with COMMENT)
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Thanks a lot for your review, Adam. We've updated our draft to version -07 and have tried to incorporate your comments in our revision. Please find more detailed responses below in line (tagged [XZ]). Any further comments are always welcome. Best, Xiaoqing (on behalf of all authors) On 2/5/19, 11:37 PM, "rmcat on behalf of Adam Roach" <rmcat-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of adam@nostrum.com> wrote: Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-rmcat-video-traffic-model-06: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rmcat-video-traffic-model/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks everyone who worked on this document. As a general comment: the various discussions of intra frame generation might benefit from a reference to the FIR behavior described in section 4.3.1 of RFC 5014. The current description seems focused on local decisions to generate intra frames, where the sender is in control of when such frames should be generated. It seems that receiver-requested I frames should also be considered by any party making use of these models. [XZ] Good suggestion. We added the possibility of receiver-requested I frames when discussing “On-demand generation of intra (I) frame:” in Sec 4., as follows: " ... This request typically comes from the error control module. It can be initiated either by the sender or by the receiver via Full Intra Request (FIR) messages as defined in [RFC5104]. " --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §3: > In the presence of a > significant change in target rate, the encoder output frame sizes > sometimes fluctuates for a short, transient period of time before the > output rate converges to the new target. Nit: "...frame sizes sometimes fluctuate..." or "...frame size sometimes fluctuates..." [XZ] Thanks for the catch! Fixed.
- [rmcat] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-r… Adam Roach
- Re: [rmcat] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ie… Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu)