Re: [rmcat] New Version Notification for draft-hayes-rmcat-sbd-01.txt

Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> Sun, 09 November 2014 12:26 UTC

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On 27 Oct 2014, at 22:06, David hayes <davihay@ifi.uio.no> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> We have posted an update to the SBD draft. The main changes are
> clarifications based on the feedback so far on the list. Thank you!
> There is also a correction to skew_est, [E_T() -> E_NT()].
> 
> Hopefully this will provide a good basis for further discussions on the
> list and at the meeting.
Hi David,

that is an interesting document. Here are some initial comments:

* I don't think you need in Section 2 the RFC 2119 boiler plate.
* In some place you refer to RTP. How is the proposed solution
  specific to RTP? Couldn't you use this also to detect shared
  bottlenecks for MP-TCP subflows or SCTP-CMT?
* Is it possible to do the computations without floating point
  operations? This might be important when trying to implement
  this in operating systems kernels.

Best regards
Michael
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:42:25 -0700
> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> To: Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>, David Hayes
> <davihay@ifi.uio.no>, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>, Simone Ferlin
> <ferlin@simula.no>, Simone Ferlin <ferlin@simula.no>, David Hayes
> <davihay@ifi.uio.no> Subject: New Version Notification for
> draft-hayes-rmcat-sbd-01.txt
> 
> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-hayes-rmcat-sbd-01.txt
> has been successfully submitted by David Hayes and posted to the
> IETF repository.
> 
> Name:		draft-hayes-rmcat-sbd
> Revision:	01
> Title:		Shared Bottleneck Detection for Coupled
> Congestion Control for RTP Media. Document date:	2014-10-27
> Group:		Individual Submission
> Pages:		13
> URL:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hayes-rmcat-sbd-01.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hayes-rmcat-sbd/
> Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hayes-rmcat-sbd-01
> Diff:
> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-hayes-rmcat-sbd-01
> 
> Abstract:
>   This document describes a mechanism to detect whether end-to-end data
>   flows share a common bottleneck.  It relies on summary statistics
>   that are calculated by a data receiver based on continuous
>   measurements and regularly fed to a grouping algorithm that runs
>   wherever the knowledge is needed.  This mechanism complements the
>   coupled congestion control mechanism in draft-welzl-rmcat-coupled-cc.
> 
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> -- 
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> +-------------------------------+
> | David A. Hayes		|
> | david.hayes@ieee.org		|
> +-------------------------------+
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