Re: [Rmt] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to QUALCOMM Incorporated's Statement about IPR related to RFC 5170

Vincent Roca <vincent.roca@inrialpes.fr> Mon, 21 September 2009 13:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rmt] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to QUALCOMM Incorporated's Statement about IPR related to RFC 5170
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Mike,

I have a comment W.R.T. your IPR disclosure against RFC 5170:
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1184/

The IPR disclosure #1184 updates the disclosures #637 and #908,
issued respectively in October 2005 and December 2007.
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/637/
	https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/908/
However the new disclosure mentions 13 patents, whereas the previous
ones mention 3 patents. Hence my remarks:

You know that IETF participants MUST disclose any IPR they are aware of
"as soon as reasonably possible" (RFC3979/section 6.2.2). You and Mark
said in a separate email exchange in April that "[DF] have followed and
are following RFC3979".

So why did you wait almost 4 years to disclose your additional 10
patents? Where is the truth?

Or, said differently: you recognized during 4 years that the additional
10 patents of disclosure #1184 were not applicable to RFC 5170, since
they were not mentioned at all. So what happened? I'd like to understand.

Regards,

    Vincent


IETF Secretariat wrote:
> Dear Vincent Roca, Christoph Neumann, David Furodet:
> 
> An IPR disclosure that pertains to your RFC entitled "Low Density Parity Check
> (LDPC) Staircase and Triangle Forward Error Correction (FEC) Schemes" (RFC5170)
> was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2009-09-08 and has been posted on the
> "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1184/). The title of the IPR disclosure is
> "QUALCOMM Incorporated's Statement about IPR related to RFC 5170."
> 
> The IETF Secretariat
> 
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