Re: [Rmt] small group replication service, application-level multicast etc.
IMAI Yuji <kimai@labs.fujitsu.com> Thu, 20 March 2003 08:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rmt] small group replication service, application-level multicast etc.
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Justin, Reading the article you pointed out, your P2P mechanism is very clever system to copy a immutable file from peer to peer. If one peer that provide some part of copy but have not enough up-link bandwidth to deliver, request side peer look for other peers who connect via broader up-link and can deliver more while receiving from first one. And to compile several part from several node, FEC is used. Is my understanding correct? It is very interesting idea because popular file will be duplicated on many hosts broadly on the Internet already, requester can ask several peers to send different part of files while encoding FEC. But your system seems to be focused on the goal different from ours. For real time datagram exchanging like VoIP and video meeting, source of original is only one node and it is not difficult, I think nearly impossible, for the listeners to require other several nodes to relay each part of real time streaming data depending of various unsettled bandwidth situation. For me, this looks the example of "There is no one-fits-all multicast transport protocol." ---- Yuji From: Justin Chapweske <justin@chapweske.com> Subject: Re: [Rmt] small group replication service, application-level multicast etc. Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:29:47 -0600 > >>Actually, the Swarmcast system that we developed in late 1999 utilized > >>Forward Error Correction combined with peer-to-peer (end-system) > >>multicast to overcome the first-mile bottleneck in systems like this. > >> > >>I'd be happy to discuss this approach off-line with anyone that is > >>interested. > >> > > > > > > Justin, Thanks. Can you provide a reference? > > Rick > > Swarmcast was a commercial endeavor, so no papers were published on it. > > An old article at > (http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2001/05/24/swarmcast_beta.html) > provides an overview of the system and I'd be happy to answer any > questions about it off-line. > > -- > Justin Chapweske, Onion Networks > http://onionnetworks.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rmt mailing list > Rmt@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rmt > _______________________________________________ Rmt mailing list Rmt@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rmt
- [Rmt] small group replication service, applicatio… Rick Boivie
- Re: [Rmt] small group replication service, applic… Justin Chapweske
- RE: [Rmt] small group replication service, applic… Bauer, Claus
- Re: [Rmt] small group replication service, applic… Rick Boivie
- Re: [Rmt] small group replication service, applic… Justin Chapweske
- Re: [Rmt] small group replication service, applic… IMAI Yuji
- Re: [Rmt] small group replication service, applic… Justin Chapweske
- Re: [Rmt] small group replication service, applic… Rick Boivie