[Roll] RAL vs RAN un useofrplinfo

"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Thu, 12 March 2020 15:55 UTC

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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org>
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Subject: [Roll] RAL vs RAN un useofrplinfo
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Dear all

I was having this chat with Ines about the normal RPL routers in useofrplinfo. As it is written their behavior does not seem specified though in fact all RANs do what the RALs do.
So my suggestion would be to change RAL for RAN everywhere to ensure we provide the operation for all nodes.

Makes sense?

Pascal