Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that text?
Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Wed, 04 April 2012 16:28 UTC
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I think we need to determine what a grounded DODAG is. Does it mean that a node announcing such a thing is attached to the Internet? (In which case P2P usage should G=0) Or does it mean that a node is attached to the resource named in the DIO? (In which case origin P2P should G=1) Richard Kelsey <richard.kelsey@ember.com> wrote: >> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 08:54:52 -0500 >> From: Mukul Goyal <mukul@uwm.edu> >> >> >The G flag is 0 if and only if the DODAG is floating. >> >> I think that the G flag is 1 if and only if the DODAG is grounded. > >I agree. G = 0 means floating, G = 1 means grounded. > >> The temporary DAGs used in P2P-RPL are not grounded, they are >> temporary. I think that all transient/temporary DAGs are >> floating by their very nature. > >This I don't follow at all. If a device has a temporary need to >send or receive data from many other devices, it makes perfect >sense for it to create a a temporary, grounded DODAG. If there >is a lot of P2P traffic, it makes perfect sense to have permanent, >floating DODAGs for routing that traffic. > > -Richard Kelsey > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Richard Kelsey" <richard.kelsey@ember.com> >> To: roll@ietf.org >> Cc: mukul@UWM.EDU, jpv@cisco.com, roll@ietf.org >> Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:36:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that text? >> >> > From: roll issue tracker <trac+roll@trac.tools.ietf.org> >> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 13:08:50 +0000 >> > >> > #86: G flag: do we need that text? >> > >> > Problem (resolition is proposed) >> > ------------------------------ >> > Disagreement on the meaning of 'G' bit and imposed setting to 0; >> > >> > Proposed resolution >> > --------------------------- >> > The origin sets the G flag based on its perception of whether joining >> > how the flag's value would affect the rank calculation under the OF >> > being used. By default, the G flag is set to zero given the temporary >> > nature of the DAG being created. >> >> I disagree with the proposed resolution. It adds needless >> confusion. The G flag is 0 if and only if the DODAG is floating. >> There is no point to allowing floating DODAGs with a P2P-RDO >> option. I suggest that the G bit be set to 1 and that routers be >> explicitly prohibited from creating floating DODAGs with a >> P2P-RDO option. >> -Richard Kelsey >> >_______________________________________________ >Roll mailing list >Roll@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll
- [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that text? roll issue tracker
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… roll issue tracker
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Richard Kelsey
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Mukul Goyal
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Mukul Goyal
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Richard Kelsey
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Mukul Goyal
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Mukul Goyal
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Richard Kelsey
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Mukul Goyal
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Philip Levis
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Mukul Goyal
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Mukul Goyal
- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
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- Re: [Roll] [roll] #86: G flag: do we need that te… JP Vasseur