Re: [Roll] AD review of draft-ietf-roll-terminology-11.txt
"JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com> Mon, 11 March 2013 14:14 UTC
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From: "JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Roll] AD review of draft-ietf-roll-terminology-11.txt
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Many Thanks Adrian for the thorough review. This may be annoying but I took all of your suggestions into account ;-) New version has been posted. Thanks. JP. On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Hi, > > I have done my usual AD review of your document prior to advancing it > towards publication. The purpose of my review is to catch issues or nits > that would be found during IETF last call or IESG review and which might > delay the processing or hide other issues. The intent is to remove the > issues efficiently at this stage. > > As usual, all of my points are open for discussion. > > I have found a number of relatively minor nits and small questions. > Given the volume I think it would be worth producing a new revision. > > When I see the new version I will start the IETF last call process. During > IETF last call, I will be bringing this I-D explicitly to the attention of > several key working groups in other IETF areas so that they can > consider alignment of terminology. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > --- > > s/A LLN/An LLN/ throughout > > --- > > Remove the 2119 boilerplate and the reference to [RFC2119] > > --- > > Decide on capitalisation of "Low power and Lossy Networks" and apply it > uniformly throughout the document. > > --- > > Section 2 Actuator > s/modulates/modulate/ > > --- > > Section 2 Commissioning Tool > s/expressed purpose/express purpose/ > > --- > > Section 2 Downstream / Upstream > > Are you convinced that these terms apply only to data entering / leaving > the LLN at the LBR? They do not apply to traffic within the LLN? > > Although I see you use "inwards" in the definition of "MP2P". > > --- > > Section 2 Field Device > s/A field deviced/A field device/ > > --- > > Section 2 Field Device > > Low power and Lossy Network Border Router (including LBR) > > Is this right? Isn't a Low power and Lossy Network Border Router exactly > an LBR? > > --- > > Section 2 Field Devices > > compared to computers and routers used in the Internet. > > I know what you mean, but I think an LLN is part of the Internet. > So maybe... > > compared to computers and routers used outside of LLNs. > > ...or... > > compared to computers and routers used in the rest of the Internet. > > --- > > Section 2 Non-sleepy Node > > Non-sleepy Node: A non-sleepy node is a node that always remains in a > fully powered on state (i.e. always awake) where it has the > capability to perform RPL protocol communication. > > I think that the specific reference to RPL is wrong in the context of > this document. You may mean "perform routing protocol communication" or > you may mean "perform communication". > > --- > > Section 2 P2MP > > You use the term DAG without explaining it. You either need to add it > to the terms (maybe DAG Root is more useful) or change what is written > for P2MP. > > --- > > Section 2 RPL Domain > > Fine, but no explanation of RPL. Since RPL is also used elsewhere in the > document, I suggest you add an entry for RPL with a citation. > > --- > > Section 2 RPL Domain > > Since someone is bound to ask what a RPL router is... > Best add an entry. > > --- > > Section 2 Sensor > > s/a analog/an analog/ > > --- > > Section 2 Sleepy Node > > Sleepy Node: A sleepy node is a node that may sometimes go into a > sleep mode (i.e. go into a low power state to conserve power) and > temporarily suspend protocol communication. A sleepy node may also > sometimes remain in a fully powered on state where it has the > capability to perform RPL protocol communication. > > This doesn't quite make sense. You are using "Sometimes remain", I think > to contrast with "sometimes go into a sleep mode". > > I think it is enough to say "When no in a sleep mode, the sleepy node is > in a fully powered on state...." > > Additionally, is the only issue "to perform RPL protocol communication"? > As for non-sleepy node you may mean "perform routing protocol > communication" or you may mean "perform communication". > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll
- [Roll] AD review of draft-ietf-roll-terminology-1… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Roll] AD review of draft-ietf-roll-terminolo… JP Vasseur (jvasseur)