Re: [Roll] [roll] #99: clarify for readers how/where provisioning of devices occurs

Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 01 June 2012 19:28 UTC

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On May 25, 2012, at 11:30 AM 5/25/12, Michael Richardson wrote:

> 
>>>>>> "Omprakash" == Omprakash Gnawali <gnawali@cs.uh.edu> writes:
>    Omprakash> I was wondering if the first paragraph of 6.1 is enough for things
>    Omprakash> that need to be configured/provisioned for MRHOF.
> 
> I think that it works for *MRHOF*, but I think that we have a bigger
> picture problem here.

Given that the ZigBee IP spec prescribes the details of how to use MRHOF, a node that implements ZigBee IP and will not be used in any other deployment scenario can be configured at manufacturing time and there is no need for the node to "allow the [...] parameters to be configured at installation time".  However, I think draft-ietf-roll-minrank-hysteresis-of would be improved by expanding the sense of the text to something like:

   An implementation needs specific values for the following
   paramters: [...]  These parameters may be set at device
   manufacturing time or configured at installation time.  RPL/MRHOF
   do not provide a way for the appropriate values for these
   parameters to be discovered through the network. 

- Ralph

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