Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language
"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Tue, 20 April 2010 03:53 UTC
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Cc: Tony Li <tli@cisco.com>, IRTF Routing RG <rrg@irtf.org>, "George, Wes E [NTK]" <Wesley.E.George@sprint.com>
Subject: Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language
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Just to clarify, the LISP work is specifically aimed at experimental status. This is the kind of space where multiple experiments seems quite sensible. Yours, Joel Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 2010-04-20 12:50, Tony Li wrote: > >> Renumbering [I-D.carpenter-renum-needs-work] > > I'm flattered to be cited, but I hope this doesn't convey the > impression that the draft (now in the RFC queue) offers a > solution. It's more of the nature of a problem statement and > gap analysis. I think it would be helpful to state that, to > avoid any false expectations. > > ... > >> We recommended ILNP because we find it to be a clean solution for the >> architecture. It separates location from identity in a clear, >> straightforward way that is consistent with the remainder of the >> Internet architecture and makes both first-class citizens. Unlike >> the many map-and-encap proposals, there are no complications due to >> tunneling, indirection, or semantics that shift over the lifetime of >> a packets delivery. > > Two observations: > > 1. Maybe add some words to point out that it isn't a done deal. ILNP > hasn't had the kind of across the board review in the IETF that seems > essential, to look for corner cases and unexpected consequences. There's > work to be done. > > 2. The IETF has already standardised a different approach (shim6) and is > in the process of specifying LISP. While this may be the IETF's problem > to sort out, perhaps you should also point out that we'd end up with > a menagerie of three species by adding ILNP. > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > rrg mailing list > rrg@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg >
- [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language George, Wes E [NTK]
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Templin, Fred L
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language heinerhummel
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Fleischman, Eric
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Steven Blake
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language heinerhummel
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Paul Jakma
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Ran Atkinson
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Eliot Lear
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language David Williamson
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Ran Atkinson
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language heinerhummel
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language heinerhummel
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Paul Jakma
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language heinerhummel
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Darrel Lewis
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language heinerhummel
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Steven Blake
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Noel Chiappa
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Noel Chiappa
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language David Meyer
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language David Meyer
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Noel Chiappa
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Vince Fuller
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Hongbin
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language heinerhummel
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language - … Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language - … Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Luigi Iannone
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language - … Ran Atkinson
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language - … Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language - … heinerhummel
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language - … Ran Atkinson
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language George, Wes E [NTK]
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Noel Chiappa
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language George, Wes E [NTK]
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Noel Chiappa
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Paul Jakma
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Vince Fuller
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language George, Wes E [NTK]
- [rrg] ILNP for IPv4 uses extra header. Comparison… Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] ILNP for IPv4 uses extra header. Compar… Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] ILNP for IPv4 uses extra header. Ran Atkinson
- Re: [rrg] ILNP for IPv4 uses new header option. C… Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] ILNP Ran Atkinson
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Tony Li
- Re: [rrg] ILNP L.Wood
- Re: [rrg] ILNP for IPv4, hIPv4 and the co-chairs'… Robin Whittle
- Re: [rrg] ILNP for IPv4 uses extra header. L.Wood
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language John E Drake
- Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language Noel Chiappa