Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Tue, 20 April 2010 03:53 UTC

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Cc: Tony Li <tli@cisco.com>, IRTF Routing RG <rrg@irtf.org>, "George, Wes E [NTK]" <Wesley.E.George@sprint.com>
Subject: Re: [rrg] Proposal for recommendation language
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Just to clarify, the LISP work is specifically aimed at experimental 
status.  This is the kind of space where multiple experiments seems 
quite sensible.

Yours,
Joel

Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 2010-04-20 12:50, Tony Li wrote:
> 
>>       Renumbering [I-D.carpenter-renum-needs-work]
> 
> I'm flattered to be cited, but I hope this doesn't convey the
> impression that the draft (now in the RFC queue) offers a
> solution. It's more of the nature of a problem statement and
> gap analysis. I think it would be helpful to state that, to
> avoid any false expectations.
> 
> ...
> 
>>    We recommended ILNP because we find it to be a clean solution for the
>>    architecture.  It separates location from identity in a clear,
>>    straightforward way that is consistent with the remainder of the
>>    Internet architecture and makes both first-class citizens.  Unlike
>>    the many map-and-encap proposals, there are no complications due to
>>    tunneling, indirection, or semantics that shift over the lifetime of
>>    a packets delivery.
> 
> Two observations:
> 
> 1. Maybe add some words to point out that it isn't a done deal. ILNP
> hasn't had the kind of across the board review in the IETF that seems
> essential, to look for corner cases and unexpected consequences. There's
> work to be done.
> 
> 2. The IETF has already standardised a different approach (shim6) and is
> in the process of specifying LISP. While this may be the IETF's problem
> to sort out, perhaps you should also point out that we'd end up with
> a menagerie of three species by adding ILNP.
> 
>      Brian
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