Re: [Rswg] [Tools-discuss] RFC editor: wrong rfc-editor/datatracker metadata for rfc2236, rfc3376

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 12 December 2023 19:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rswg] [Tools-discuss] RFC editor: wrong rfc-editor/datatracker metadata for rfc2236, rfc3376
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Switching to the RSWG list for cause:

On 13-Dec-23 05:04, Robert Sparks wrote:
> Hi Toerless:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idmr-igmp-v3/10/ works.
> Earlier versions don't because the datatracker doesn't have metadata
> history (DocHistory objects) for those versions. There's already an
> issue to make it so that people can see the draft text _anyhow_.
> 
> Also https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-idmr-igmp-v3-10.txt
> 
> (you can see earlier versions at that last link by replacing the version).
> 
> that version says obsoletes, and previous versions say nothing.
> 
> The metadata was adjusted by erratum - see
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/rfc3376
> 
> See what the IESG asked for in the first verified erratum.

Also see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/inline-errata/rfc3376.html

A perfect example for those who believe that re-rendering RFCs with fixed errata, including metadata, should be the norm.

    Brian

> 
> RjS
> 
> On 12/12/23 9:48 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
>> Dear RFC editor, datatracker tools team
>>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3376.txt, which i guess/hope is authoritative
>> claims that it is obsoleting rfc2236. However, all the places where RFC editor
>> keeps metadata, such as rfc-index.txt says that it updates rfc2236.
>>
>> Likewise, datatracker metadata does also indicate update instead of obsolete
>> (which i guess is where RFC editor got its information from). Alas, datatracker
>> does not allow me to find the draft versions of rfc3376 anymore (opened a datatracker
>> bug against that) to verify that the source file has been consistently saying obsolete.
>>
>> In any case, it would be good if this inconsistency was fixed, and datatracker/rfc-editor
>> metadata was updated to indicate that rfc3376 obsoletes rfc2236.
>>
>> Thanks
>>       Toerless
>>
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