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Re: [Rswg] Presentation consistency (Re: Making the RFC 9280 text more specific

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 07 March 2024 19:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rswg] Presentation consistency (Re: Making the RFC 9280 text more specific
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8949 is a liar. It should be

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/htmlized/rfc8949

I find this annoying, because I have to look for the "other formats" area in the right hand menu to find the genuine HTML, as if it was a junior cousin rather than the primary display format.

The same goes for I-D Announcements using this variant:

"There is also an HTMLized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-avtext-framemarking-16"

which also sends me to the htmlized version, requiring extra clicks to find the genuine HTML.

On topic: should we actively promote the genuine HTML presentation?

Regards
    Brian

On 08-Mar-24 03:54, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 01:27, Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> wrote:
>>
>> [JM] The text regarding consistent presentation gives me pause, specifically the use of the phrase "across the Series":
>>
>>    RFCs are copyedited, formatted, published, and may be reissued to
>>    maintain a consistent presentation across the Series.
> 
> FYI: That sentiment seems to be alive and well.
> 
> Why are the I-Ds and RFCs shown at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html not in the HTML presentation form, but in some simulated plaintext (monospaced, so it looks almost but not entirely like the plaintext presentation form)?
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8949
> 
> Somebody has had a serious fit of nostalgia (or a fit of consistency hobgoblin?).
> (Of course, we actually broke any remaining actual consistency when we stopped paginating the plaintext.)
> 
> Sorry, another off-topic (but I hope elucidating the on-topic discussions) from me.
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
>

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