Re: [Rswg] SVG/ASCII art and accesibility (was: Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-rswg-rfc7996-issues-00.txt)

[Jean Mahoney <[e-mail]>]

Hi Brian,

On 10/7/22 6:17 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Jean,
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> On 08-Oct-22 10:55, Jean Mahoney wrote:
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>> [JM] Repeating here the comment that I've added to issue #20 
>> (https://github.com/rfcseries-wg/new-topics/issues/20):
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>> The RPC is updating its procedure for checking artwork to include 
>> reviewing the contents of the SVG <desc> and <title> elements and the 
>> <artwork alt=""/> attribute (when xml2rfc supports it. Issue opened: 
>> ietf-tools/xml2rfc#898 
>> <https://github.com/ietf-tools/xml2rfc/issues/898>). If the artwork 
>> lacks an accessible description, during AUTH48 the editor will ask 
>> the authors to please provide text. We will also update the Online 
>> Portion of the Style Guide to recommend to authors that they provide 
>> descriptive text for artwork. rfc7322bis 
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-flanagan-7322bis-07#section-3.7> 
>> already captures a recommendation regarding artwork accessibility.
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> That's excellent, of course. But I still lack
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> a) any drawing tool for SVG that supports <desc>;
[JM] Ack. I've manually inserted <desc> into SVG embedded in RFCXML, and 
it works (that is, the contents appear in the HTML output), but it would 
be good to identify drawing tools that support <desc>.

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> b) any simple way of testing whether a <desc> or <artwork alt=""/> 
> actually works with a screen reader in the html rendering;
[JM] I'm also looking for a good screen reader or browser plugin to test 
these things. Anyone have suggestions?

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> c) a good example of a well annotated diagram in xml2rfcv3-conforming 
> xml.
[JM] And this would be good to capture on authors.ietf.org. I've added a 
comment to Issue #42 (https://github.com/ietf/authors.ietf.org/issues/42).

Thanks!
Jean

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> The third one is probably the most important of all.
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> Regards
>     Brian
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