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Re: [Rswg] The immutability shibboleth [was: draft-thomson-rswg-syntax-change call for adoption]

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 28 August 2023 14:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rswg] The immutability shibboleth [was: draft-thomson-rswg-syntax-change call for adoption]
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Hiya,

On 28/08/2023 15:12, Scott Bradner wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 10:00 AM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> <snip>
> 
>>   If I
>> want to write DNS software or SMTP software, nobody can even tell me
>> what RFCs I need to read, much less what errata need to be applied. I
>> would hope we could come up with A scheme where we can point to the
>> most recent updated fixed version of a document.
> 
> 
> many technologies such as DNS & SNMP are not defined in just one RFC - (even if one
> includes errata) - they are defined by many RFCs so saying 1/ what documents need to be
> implemented to implement a technology& 2/ what versions of those documents is what is actually
> needed

Right. And it's unclear to me that changing existing RFCs
would be of much help there.

> we tried in NEWTRK - see draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd and (as an example) draft-ietf-newtrk-sample-isd
> 
> the IESG did not like it and told us to stop thinking this way

The IESG of the time. Maybe some of those ideas do need to
be re-examined, but that'd be for the IETF I guess and not
for rswg.

Cheers,
S.


> 
> Scott

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