Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different resolutions
Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com> Wed, 02 January 2013 23:50 UTC
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:49:59 +0100
From: Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different resolutions
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On 2013-01-02 19:32, Ted Hardie wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Stefan Håkansson LK > <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com > <mailto:stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com>> wrote: > > > Another way to look at this is that we already have the following > requirement: > > "F11 The browser MUST be able to transmit streams and > data to several peers concurrently.", > > and presumably there would be independent rate control for these > streams (since they may experience different network conditions), > > simulcast is in sense just a special case (the two other peer's are > the same endpoint). > > > While I agree that you could model it this way, I think it may be more > appropriate to treat simulcast as its own case, rather than as a special > case of the multiple peer. I agree fully. I was just trying to say that we already have requirements covering a large part of what is needed for simulcast, so simulcast would not require much more in terms of implementation than what we already have agreement on. But it should be its own case. Apart from the point you make about rate control, there is also a tighter requirement on synchronization between two versions of the same stream in a simulcast case than what would (likely) be needed in a multiple peer case. > > Consider this pair of scenarios: > > Case one: > There is one endpoint, Zelda, which is sending media via Turn service to > two hosts behind the same NAT (let's call them Scott and Edouard). > There is independent rate control for the streams sending this media. > > Case two: > There is an endpoint, Zelda, which is sending simulcast media to Scott, > which is using a Turn service and is behind a NAT. > > Isn't managing fairness going to be potentially very different between > case one and case two? > > regards, > > Ted
- [rtcweb] Support of video with different resoluti… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Alex Eleftheriadis
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Support of video with different reso… Stefan Håkansson LK
- [rtcweb] Signalling for simulcast (Re: Support of… Harald Alvestrand