Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling
worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Mon, 29 April 2013 21:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling
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> From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> > > > Each SSRC is demultiplexed based on an RTCP SDES item that gives > > the mapping between the SSRC and the m= line via which it is > > presented to the application layer (that is, the constituent m= > > line sequence number). > > It's been proposed. I don't know exactly why it wasn't considered > worth pursuing. > > Maybe you can ask Peter Thatcher to share his document on demux. It's > a reasonable taxonomy of the available options. Better than what I'm > able to write up in a short time. What I can find is draft-pthatcher-mmusic-many-sources-00, but it doesn't seem to describe demultiplexing. That draft does contain a small error: o With BUNDLE, use of RFC5576 a=ssrc attributes is required in order for the recipient to be able to properly demultiplex incoming RTP. Payload type isn't sufficient as a demux point, since RTCP packets don't contain RTP payload types. Therefore, this approach requires both sides to understand RFC5576, just like the single-m- section approach. a=ssrc attributes are not strictly needed, because RTCP packets contain SSRC identifiers, and RTP packets contain both SSRC and PT. So caching the SSRC/PT correspondence seen in the RTP packets allows the RTCP packets to be assigned to the proper m= lines. This matters because a=ssrc attributes are problematic; we want to add, remove, and adjust video flows without additional offer/answer cycles, which precludes adding or changing a=ssrc attributes in the SDP to handle the new flow. (This is requirement 3 in http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2013/02/05/rtcweb/slides/slides-interim-2013-rtcweb-1-10.pdf, "Add/remove one way video flows with minimal chance of glare on non-legacy apps" and DES F11 in draft-worley-sdp-bundle.) Dale
- [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling rtcweb issue tracker
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Mo Zanaty (mzanaty)
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] #15: Section 4.8: SSRC signaling Dale R. Worley