Re: [rtcweb] Proposed resolution on comfort noise
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Mon, 14 December 2015 12:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposed resolution on comfort noise
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I support this resolution. I note that there's material in this discussion for an extensive treatise on the pros and cons of offering CN at gateways. If someone wishes to extract this as a PR against the -gateways draft, the draft is at https://github.com/rtcweb-wg/gateways. On 12/10/2015 11:14 PM, Ted Hardie wrote: > After reading the discussion on the comfort noise issue, it appears > that one way forward might be to adjust this language: > > "comfort noise (CN). Receivers MUST support RFC3389 CN for streams > encoded with G.711 or any other supported codec that does not provide > its own CN.” > > to say instead > > "comfort noise (CN). WebRTC endpoints MUST support RFC3389 CN for > streams encoded with G.711 or any other supported codec that does not > provide its own CN.” > > This would still allow non-WebRTC endpoints to omit CN support, while > retaining the mandate for WebRTC endpoints. > > Does this resolve the issue? > > regards, > > Ted > > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb -- Surveillance is pervasive. Go Dark.
- [rtcweb] Proposed resolution on comfort noise Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposed resolution on comfort noise Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposed resolution on comfort noise Wyss, Felix
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposed resolution on comfort noise Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposed resolution on comfort noise Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposed resolution on comfort noise Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposed resolution on comfort noise Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposed resolution on comfort noise Justin Uberti