Re: [rtcweb] draft-schwartz-rtcweb-return

"Hutton, Andrew" <andrew.hutton@unify.com> Thu, 26 March 2015 20:11 UTC

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On: 26 March 2015 10:20 Cullen Jennings Wrote:
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> I'd like to point out that the combination of ietf-tram-turn-server-
> discovery and draft-schwartz-rtcweb-return allow any network you are
> connected to more or less MITM your media and do things like rate limit
> it, generate analytics on who you are talking to, force your traffic
> through an intermediary that is in a  different legal jurisdiction and
> so on.
> 

I don't see any new issues that are caused by this draft it is just suggesting that the same is done for WebRTC Media as is already done for HTTP(S) but using a TURN proxy which is optimized to handle media. 

We set the requirement in RFC 7478 (Requirement F20) requires that WebRTC handles this scenario and this solution is the only one we have on the table for this and provides a solution to the privacy concerns (IP Address leaks) with regard to deploying a network specific proxy.


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