Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC endpoint non-browser

Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> Mon, 08 December 2014 19:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC endpoint non-browser
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The question, is who cares?

My  application will do whatever is needed for my service, implement 
one, two, three or none video codecs according to my business 
requirements. I don't really care (so won't my users) if you call it 
webrtc endpoint, webrtc-compatible endpoint or webrtc-non-compatible 
endpoint.

So, from my point of view, we are just discussing about definitions of 
entities so we all speak same languages, any attempt to push a MTI codec 
is wishful thinking at best.

Talking about reality, from my experience, most of the apps will be 
google's libwebrtc based, so they will implement whatever is provided in 
there. VP8 for sure, and h264 if supported by mobile and used by libwebrtc.

On a side note, with current state of specs, a Microsoft based ORTC 
implementation on IE will be a webrtc endpoint.

Best regards
Sergio
On 08/12/2014 19:00, Gaelle Martin-Cocher wrote:
>
> Do you have any concrete examples?
>
> Does this mobile app, needs to interact with another mobile app? 
> Again, I am looking for concrete example.
>
> I bet that every single webrtc service will be a webrtc compatible 
> endpoint.
>
> I would like to have a confirmation that this is not the case and that 
> those apps that you are mentioning will interact with other apps and 
> implement both codecs.
>
> Best,
>
> Gaëlle
>
> *From:*Sergio Garcia Murillo [mailto:sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 08, 2014 12:10 PM
> *To:* Gaelle Martin-Cocher
> *Subject:* RE: [rtcweb] WebRTC endpoint non-browser
>
> They may be webrtc endpoints, or compatible-endpoints depending if 
> they implement full webrtc-rtc stuff our just a minimum subset.
>
> Being specific, any mobile application not using a browser will be a 
> webrtc endpoint. So I bet every single webrtc service will implement 
> their own app, hence their own webrtc endpoint.
>
> Best regards
> Sergio
>
> El 08/12/2014 17:24, "Gaelle Martin-Cocher" 
> <gmartincocher@blackberry.com <mailto:gmartincocher@blackberry.com>> 
> escribió:
>
> You are listing webrtc-compatible endpoints, not webrtc “non browser” 
> endpoints.
>
> I am not asking of generic types of services but who actually belong 
> to the non browser endpoint category.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gaëlle
>
> *From:*rtcweb [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org 
> <mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org>] *On Behalf Of *Sergio Garcia Murillo
> *Sent:* Monday, December 08, 2014 11:10 AM
> *To:* rtcweb@ietf.org <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [rtcweb] WebRTC endpoint non-browser
>
> Native or custom applications, audio gateways, mcus, transcoders, SBCs...
>
> Best regards
> Sergio
>
>
> On 08/12/2014 17:03, Gaelle Martin-Cocher wrote:
>
>     All,
>
>     Is it possible to know who is going to develop services that
>     belongs to the WebRTC  endpoint non-browser category?
>
>     I think it would really help if we can identify that.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Gaëlle
>