[rtcweb] RTP congestion meeting hosted by ICCRG in Paris
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Wed, 07 March 2012 16:39 UTC
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Subject: [rtcweb] RTP congestion meeting hosted by ICCRG in Paris
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This should be of interest to several of the participants. Note that the time slot for ICCRG conflicts with AVTEXT (first half) and SIPCORE (second half); we chose the SIPCORE conflict as the lesser evil. Please keep discussion of the technology on the rtp-congestion list, if you have to pick one. Harald -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Iccrg] Preliminary agenda for ICCRG meeting @ IETF 83 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 16:10:23 +0100 From: Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> To: iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk Ladies and gentlemen, Let me present to you the preliminary agenda for the ICCRG meeting at the upcoming Paris IETF, which is scheduled on Tuesday afternoon, in the 15:20-17:00 and 17:10-18:10 time slots. The second time slot is dedicated to congestion control for RTP-carried real-time media; this is an effort that comes out of rtcweb, with its own mailing list, see: http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/rtp-congestion The group is considering formation of a new WG, and that's why there is an item called "a possible WG charter" in the agenda - however, note that this meeting is not meant as a surrogate for a BoF (which is clearly not what a RG could or should "host"), so this will be just informational, not a time slot for wordsmithing. Content-wise, congestion control for RTP seems to be clearly in scope of ICCRG, and so I expect this to be an interesting session for all of us. Time slot 1, 15:20-17:00 * Agenda bashing and update - Michael Welzl (5 min) * Congestion Control and Notification over Longer Time Scales and at Higher Layers - Dave McDysan (20 min) draft-mcdysan-iccrg-usecases-00 * On the Fairness of Transport Protocols in a Multi-Path Environment - Hakim Adhari (15 min) (based on an upcoming ICC 2012 paper) * Caching with TCP - Pasi Sarolahti (15 min) * End-to-End Transmission Control through Inference about the Network - Keith Winstein (30 min) (based on: http://conferences.sigcomm.org/hotnets/2011/papers/hotnetsX-final100.pdf) Time slot 2, 17:10-18:10 Topic chair: Harald Alvestrand * Introduction: The RTCWEB effort, and the traffic we expect to generate - Harald (10 min) o Doc: draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview-02 o Doc: draft-jesup-rtp-congestion-reqs-00 * Nice behaviour for RTP-based services - Varun Singh, Colin Perkins (10 min) o Doc: draft-perkins-avtcore-rtp-circuit-breakers-00 * A delay based congestion control candidate - Stefan Holmer (15 min) o Doc: draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-congetstion-01 * Feedback mechanisms that might be useful - Harald Alvestrand (5 min) o Doc: draft-alvestrand-rmcat-remb-00 * A possible WG charter: RMCAT (15 min) o Doc: http://www.ietf.org/iesg/evaluation/rmcat-charter.txt * Summary, conclusions, next steps (5 min) The times in slot 1 are based on what the presenters requested, but I'd think that not everyone has planned for the normal (long) duration of discussions at IETF meetings, and so it's nice to have some headroom. This being said, I think we can still squeeze a presentation in there if need be. Cheers, Michael _______________________________________________ Iccrg mailing list Iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk http://oakham.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/iccrg
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