Re: [rtcweb] Endpoints that don't support RTCP

Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> Thu, 23 April 2015 09:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Endpoints that don't support RTCP
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On 23/04/2015 11:38, Emil Ivov wrote:
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> I am claiming that we don't have sufficient evidence that they work
> and am concerned that they would trigger in situations where common
> sense dictates they shouldn't.

+1

I completely agree with Emil. In fact, as a WebRTC service providers, 
what we are going to do in case of CB is to re-establish the connection 
immediately (maybe disabling video), so in fact the effectivity of the 
CB are going to be null and only add burdens to developers .

Best regards
Sergio