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Re: [rtcweb] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-rtcweb-ip-handling-11: (with COMMENT)

Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Wed, 06 March 2019 23:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-rtcweb-ip-handling-11: (with COMMENT)
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> On Mar 6, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:59 PM Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com <mailto:ben@nostrum.com>> wrote:
> Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-rtcweb-ip-handling-11: Yes
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> I agree with Mirja that this reads more like a BCP. Was BCP status considered by the WG?
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> I don't think it was explicitly discussed. We have been treating this document similarly to the other recommendation documents for WebRTC, e.g. the recommended audio codecs in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7874 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7874>; these docs are all Standards Track.

It’s not a show stopper from my perspective, especially if we are talking about recommendations to W3C.

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> (nit) §3: Please expand "RTMFP" on first mention.
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> (nit) §5.2: "Mode 1 MUST only be used when user consent has been provided"
> Please consider "... MUST NOT be used unless user consent has been provided."
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> §11.2: It seems like the references for STUN and TURN should be normative.
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> It wasn't clear to me that STUN and TURN meet the bar of "required to implement this RFC". Open to other points of view here though.

§7 contains says applications SHOULD deploy a TURN server; that’s enough to make TURN normative. It’s less clear for STUN, but I think it passes the “necessary to fully implement or _understand_” bar.

Ben.

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