Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line address when FQDN is used for the default candidate?
Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> Fri, 01 February 2019 03:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line address when FQDN is used for the default candidate?
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We can however all agree that "c=IN IP6" is busted: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=927309 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:56 PM Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> wrote: > I looked into this before and it's pretty clear that ICE candidate and c= > line can both contain FQDN. > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:14 PM Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote: > >> Hi Dale, >> >> This is exactly what I've thought. I have added RtcWeb group to the >> email, since they have a draft which describes using MDNS >> candidates: rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates ( >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-mdns-ice-candidates-02) >> This draft talks about replacing host candidates addresses with MDNS FQDN. >> What it does not talk about is what ends up in c=/m= line in this case. In >> the currently Chrome MDNS experiment, Chrome produces something like this: >> >> v=0 >> o=- 5433632304511147701 2 IN IP4 127.0.0.1 >> s=- >> t=0 0 >> a=group:BUNDLE audio >> a=msid-semantic: WMS 6bb347f4-f699-4522-99ea-215c10022f50 >> m=audio 59372 UDP/TLS/RTP/SAVPF 111 103 104 9 0 8 106 105 13 110 112 113 >> 126 >> *c=IN IP6* >> a=rtcp:9 IN IP4 0.0.0.0 >> a=candidate:1962264367 1 udp 2122260223 >> 3557773f-5f01-46a4-aa14-54ab35b3d778.local 59372 typ host generation 0 >> network-id 1 network-cost 10 >> a=candidate:980827103 1 tcp 1518280447 >> 3557773f-5f01-46a4-aa14-54ab35b3d778.local 9 typ host tcptype active >> generation 0 network-id 1 network-cost 10 >> a=ice-ufrag:3iia >> a=ice-pwd:HMo0mGLq8nYb9pfnG/nH3pNI >> a=ice-options:trickle >> a=fingerprint:sha-256 >> 8D:22:EF:E4:8B:7F:B3:F0:69:2E:B2:1D:4B:F1:6F:DE:62:BE:B8:DC:92:A3:F7:E5:1B:E8:87:6D:BE:E2:44:48 >> a=setup:actpass >> a=mid:audio >> a=extmap:1 urn:ietf:params:rtp-hdrext:ssrc-audio-level >> a=sendrecv >> a=rtcp-mux >> a=rtpmap:111 opus/48000/2 >> a=rtcp-fb:111 transport-cc >> a=fmtp:111 minptime=10;useinbandfec=1 >> a=rtpmap:103 ISAC/16000 >> a=rtpmap:104 ISAC/32000 >> a=rtpmap:9 G722/8000 >> a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 >> a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000 >> a=rtpmap:106 CN/32000 >> a=rtpmap:105 CN/16000 >> a=rtpmap:13 CN/8000 >> a=rtpmap:110 telephone-event/48000 >> a=rtpmap:112 telephone-event/32000 >> a=rtpmap:113 telephone-event/16000 >> a=rtpmap:126 telephone-event/8000 >> a=ssrc:4224017887 cname:aHDhJbcPUEXkWfRL >> a=ssrc:4224017887 msid:6bb347f4-f699-4522-99ea-215c10022f50 >> ffd9edfb-e99c-4cc3-a1dd-817f0327d021 >> a=ssrc:4224017887 mslabel:6bb347f4-f699-4522-99ea-215c10022f50 >> a=ssrc:4224017887 label:ffd9edfb-e99c-4cc3-a1dd-817f0327d021 >> >> As you can see c= line is "c=IN IP6" and is missing the contact address, >> which so far breaks every client except Chrome, including Firefox. >> >> I was curious what should go into the c= line and if this would work >> anywhere, or if this is completely misguided >> >> Regards, >> _____________ >> Roman Shpount >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:48 PM Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> writes: >>> > I wanted to see if it was ever decided if c= line should contain IN >>> IP4 or >>> > IN IP6 when default ICE candidate address contains FQDN. >>> > >>> > For instance, in the following SDP: >>> > >>> > m=audio 59372 UDP/TLS/RTP/SAVPF 0 >>> > *c=IN IP6 3557773f-5f01-46a4-aa14-54ab35b3d778.local * >>> > a=rtcp:9 IN IP4 0.0.0.0 >>> > a=candidate:1962264367 1 udp 2122260223 >>> > 3557773f-5f01-46a4-aa14-54ab35b3d778.local 59372 typ host >>> > a=ice-ufrag:3iia >>> > a=ice-pwd:HMo0mGLq8nYb9pfnG/nH3pNI >>> > a=rtcp-mux >>> > >>> > Is it correct to use "c=IN IP6 >>> 3557773f-5f01-46a4-aa14-54ab35b3d778.local " >>> > or should it be "c=IN IP4 3557773f-5f01-46a4-aa14-54ab35b3d778.local"? >>> >>> In regard to ICE *candidates*, RFC 8445 makes it clear that a candidate >>> is an IP address, not an FQDN: >>> >>> 2.1. Gathering Candidates >>> >>> In order to execute ICE, an ICE agent identifies and gathers one or >>> more address candidates. A candidate has a transport address -- a >>> combination of IP address and port for a particular transport >>> protocol (with only UDP specified here). There are different types >>> of candidates; some are derived from physical or logical network >>> interfaces, and others are discoverable via STUN and TURN. >>> >>> The discussion of "default candidates" is a little vague due to the fact >>> that the ICE specification factors out ICE from any protocol that uses >>> it, but the default candidate is always a *candidate* and thus an >>> address, not an FQDN: >>> >>> 5.2. Lite Implementation Procedures >>> >>> Next, an agent chooses a default candidate for each component of each >>> data stream. If a host is IPv4 only, there would only be one >>> candidate for each component of each data stream; therefore, that >>> candidate is the default. If a host is IPv6 only, the default >>> candidate would typically be a globally scoped IPv6 address. Dual- >>> stack hosts SHOULD allow configuration whether IPv4 or IPv6 is used >>> for the default candidate, and the configuration needs to be based on >>> which one its administrator believes has a higher chance of success >>> in the current network environment. >>> >>> >>> 5.3. Exchanging Candidate Information >>> >>> The using protocol may (or may not) need to deal with backwards >>> compatibility with older implementations that do not support ICE. If >>> a fallback mechanism to non-ICE is supported and is being used, then >>> presumably the using protocol provides a way of conveying the default >>> candidate (its IP address and port) in addition to the ICE >>> parameters. >>> >>> Dale >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> rtcweb mailing list >> rtcweb@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >> >
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Alan Ford
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… youenn fablet
- Re: [rtcweb] [MMUSIC] What goes into c= line addr… Lorenzo Miniero