Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms
Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Tue, 04 October 2016 13:43 UTC
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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms
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Hi, >>>>I still question why the low-level RTP demuxing shall be described in >>>> JSEP, instead of e.g., BUNDLE. >>>> >>>> Keep in mind that all BUNDLE implementations may not implement JSEP, >>>> but I >>>> still think we want the RTP demuxing to be done in the same way? >>> >>> Does BUNDLE say how to handle RID? >> >> No. Cullen wanted more text, though, but I am not sure whether that >> covered RID. >> >>> Seriously, please get BUNDLE out the door and don't tangle it in any >>> more new stuff. >> >> If that was meant to me, I will pretend I didn¹t see itŠ > >It's actually a grave concern of mine - more addressed to the chairs of >the relevant WGs than to anyone else. > >Any open document is a magnet for new functionality, and any new >functionality delays the document's publication. > >The bundle document, with its associated changes in registration >procedures for SDP attributes (the mux category), needs to be seen as >stable. RFC publication is the best way to make it so. > >Datatracker says we've been working on this document since 2011. It's >now at version -32, and was in state "Minor updates needed to address >WGLC comments" in May. > >If we can segregate new requests for functionality into other documents, >I think that is a win. It’s not the addition of new functionality that has caused the delay. Whenever we’ve decided to add some new functionality, the process has been rather fast and smooth - thanks to everyone who have provided text and input. What is causing the delay is the never-ending requests for editorial changes (many of which are not done using a simple search/replace - they often require wider re-writing/structuring). Whenever person X has provided comments, and I’ve updated the document, person Y wants something else. It would have been much easier if person Y would have given his/her comments when person X did, and then we could have discussed and tried to find something that both X and Y are happy with. Note that I AM very thankful that people DO review the document (we need more of that), and most of the comments are really good, but by using the current “process” we’ll never be ready. Anyway, I think that discussion belongs to MMUSIC. Regards, Christer
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- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Colin Perkins
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Colin Perkins
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: RTP demux algorithms Christer Holmberg