Re: [rtcweb] Amount of streams supported for data channels

Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca> Sat, 28 April 2018 22:44 UTC

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> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:08 AM, Lennart Grahl <lennart.grahl@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Is there any reason why it needs to be a SHOULD? Could we make this a MUST?

Yes … when the WG was discussing this the thing that came up was WebRTC devices that are doing IoT stuff often will not have enough memory to do the state for 65k of them. So I don’t think we should require 65k data connections for all uses of rtcweb but theses devices are unlikely to be using the JS API so the question of what to do there is different.