Re: [rtcweb] Uploaded unified minutes for both days of IETF 86 meetings

[Gaelle Martin-Cocher <[e-mail]>]

Dear all,

Some corrections made by Magnus and sent to the list on April 2nd were lost; page 3 the first changes under the VP8 IPR presentation should read:
VP8 IPR: http<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>://<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>www<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>.<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>ietf<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>.<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>org<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>/<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>proceedings<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>/86/<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>slides<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>/<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>slides<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>-86-<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>rtcweb<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>-10.<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>pdf<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-10.pdf>
Serge Lachapelle presenting

Gaelle reiterated that more details are needed on the recent announcement and noted that there are more patent holders for H.264 in the ITU-T database that are not part of MPEG-LA.  She asked if the IETF could send letters to solicit information from these IPR-holders.


Also, please see below some corrections/clarifications:
In the same section:
The MPEG-LA pool is a subset.  She re-iterated her view that in light of the answers provided by the area directors, the IETF is not the place for clarifying this.

In the section:
Mandatory to Implement Video Codec discussion
VP8 Technical: http<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>://<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>www<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>.<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>ietf<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>.<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>org<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>/<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>proceedings<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>/86/<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>slides<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>/<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>slides<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>-86-<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>rtcweb<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>-9.<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>pdf<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-9.pdf>
Harald Alvestrand presenting
....
Gaelle then spoke, saying that in light of the inaccuracy of the tests and related data the venue is wrong, that  MPEG is the right place to perform those tests and IETF should rely on MPEG results before making a decision.  She wants to be sure that the tests are accurate, and that the test set and methodology used in IETF are problematic.

In the last section:
It was clearly indicated that additional questions should not be the one that were already asked during the meeting or sent on the reflector. (Some of these are still pending answers).

Sense of the room query: http<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>://<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>www<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>.<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>ietf<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>.<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>org<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>/<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>proceedings<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>/86/<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>slides<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>/<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>slides<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>-86-<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>rtcweb<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>-14.<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>pd<http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-rtcweb-14.pd>f
Robert Sparks (as a favor to the chairs)

The questions to be asked were put on the slides.  If you can't answer these question, think about what you really need.  Come articulate at the mic after the questions, issues or questions that have not already being posted on the reflector or that have not been raised during the meeting.

Thank you
Sincerely,
Gaëlle


From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Ted Hardie
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 4:29 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: [rtcweb] Uploaded unified minutes for both days of IETF 86 meetings

Howdy,

We have now uploaded unified minutes with the corrections we received on the list; thanks to all who reviewed.  If you have not yet done so, there is still time to update, so please take a look.

thanks,

Ted Hardie, for the chairs.

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