Re: [yang-doctors] New Version Notification for draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03.txt

[Rahman <[e-mail]>]

+1 for option 3. So much of the terminology has changed, it’s not the same model anymore.

Regards,

Reshad.

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On Mar 2, 2024, at 12:39 AM, Yingzhen Qu <[e-mail]> wrote:



Hi,

Speaking as an individual contributor, I'm leaning toward option 3. In case someone implemented RFC 8347, they can choose whether to implement the new model.

Thanks,

Yingzhen

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 12:43 PM Acee Lindem <[e-mail]> wrote:

This BIS document updates the YANG model with IETF inclusive language guidelines as was done with the VRRP protocol specification itself. 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc5798bis/" dir="ltr" width="300" target="_blank">

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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc5798bis/" target="_blank">Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP) Version 3 for IPv4 and IPv6 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc5798bis/" target="_blank">datatracker.ietf.org

 

It currently doesn’t conform to YANG backward guidelines. There are basically three options: 

    1. Treat the correction of non-inclusive language as necessary bug fix and allow non-backward compatible changes. 

    2. Keep all the old non-inclusive data leaves in the model with deprecated status. At some point in future, these could be removed in a new document. 

    3. Make this a completely new model - ietf-vrrp-2.yang. 

The current individual draft is based on option 1. I had a conversation with Lou and he suggested the 3 third option. 

What are people’s opinion on this? Option 2 is my least favorite since it doesn’t complete the job and given how long IETF document take (especially YANG models), I probably won’t be actively participating long enough for the draft which removes the deprecated options. 

Thanks,

Acee

On Mar 1, 2024, at 15:31, [e-mail] wrote:

A new version of Internet-Draft draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis-03.txt has
been successfully submitted by Acee Lindem and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:     draft-acee-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc8347bis
Revision: 03
Title:    A YANG Data Model for the Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP)
Date:     2024-03-01
Group:    Individual Submission
Pages:    44
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Abstract:

  This document describes a data model for the Virtual Router
  Redundancy Protocol (VRRP).  Both versions 2 and 3 of VRRP are
  covered.

  The VRRP terminology has been updated conform to inclusive language
  guidelines for IETF technologies.  The IETF has designated National
  Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) "Guidance for NIST Staff
  on Using Inclusive Language in Documentary Standards" for its
  inclusive language guidelines.

  This document obsoletes RFC 8347.



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