RE: progressing draft-ietf-rtgwg-backoff-algo

[Chris Bowers <[e-mail]>]

Yes.  I should have explicitly mentioned draft-ietf-rtgwg-spf-uloop-pb-statement.  I think that document should progress fairly soon to WCLC regardless of how we decide to progress draft-ietf-rtgwg-backoff-algo.

Chris

From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 9:17 AM
To: Chris Bowers <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
Subject: RE: progressing draft-ietf-rtgwg-backoff-algo

Hi Chairs,

Can we move forward at least the associated problem statement draft ?

Best Regards,

Stephane

From: rtgwg [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Chris Bowers
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 00:34
To: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Subject: progressing draft-ietf-rtgwg-backoff-algo

RTGWG,

Jeff and I wanted to get a sense of how the working group would like to proceed regarding draft-ietf-rtgwg-backoff-algo.

The basic question for the working group is:   Should we proceed towards publication of the draft more or less as is, or should we wait to incorporate feedback from one or more implementations of the SPF back-off algorithm?

As far as we know, there haven't been any implementations of the proposed SPF back-off algorithm.  It would be good to get an understanding if any implementations are in progress or planned.

The common SPF back-off algorithm proposed in the document seems quite reasonable.  However, it is also quite possible that a single implementation would uncover some unforeseen issues or suggest improvements for the functioning of the algorithm in a single vendor network.  Testing with two or more implementations may provide feedback to improve the algorithm with respect to the goal of having common SPF delays in a multi-vendor network.  But we won't know until that work is done.

If there are implementations in progress or planned, then we think it would be worth waiting to incorporate feedback from those implementations before publishing.

Instead, if there are no implementations planned, we have several options.  We can proceed towards publication more or less as is, with WG last call in the near future.  Or we can explicitly decide to wait to publish the document, leaving it either as an active WG document or as a parked WG document, and wait for one or more implementations.  With the last option, we could leave open the option of publishing at some point in the future, even if no implementations appear.

Personally, I am quite hopeful that there will be at least prototype implementations in the not too distant future.  While it is very unlikely that a vendor would change their default SPF back-off algorithm to this new algorithm, it can easily be implemented with a knob to activate this algorithm.   This gives a simple way to try out the new algorithm incrementally, lowering the bar significantly for at least a prototype implementation.

We look forward to hearing feedback from the WG on how to proceed with the draft.

Thanks,
Chris



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