Agenda topics for IETF-74
"John G. Scudder" <jgs@juniper.net> Tue, 03 March 2009 17:01 UTC
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Subject: Agenda topics for IETF-74
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Folks, rtgwg will meet at IETF-74 on Monday March 23 from 1520 - 1720. If you'd like an agenda slot, please send email to the chairs. Please also let us know how much time you think you'll need. Thanks, --John, Alia and Alex From root@core3.amsl.com Thu Mar 5 05:00:01 2009 Return-Path: <root@core3.amsl.com> X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 573813A6AB8; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 05:00:01 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-ietf-rtgwg-lf-conv-frmwk-04.txt Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090305130001.573813A6AB8@core3.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 05:00:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <rtgwg.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg>, <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg> List-Post: <mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg>, <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:00:01 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Framework for Loop-free Convergence Author(s) : M. Shand, S. Bryant Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-lf-conv-frmwk-04.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2009-03-05 This draft describes mechanisms that may be used to prevent or to suppress the formation of micro-loops when an IP or MPLS network undergoes topology change due to failure, repair or management action. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rtgwg-lf-conv-frmwk-04.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-rtgwg-lf-conv-frmwk-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2009-03-05044907.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From gregory.ietf@gmail.com Mon Mar 16 13:10:58 2009 Return-Path: <gregory.ietf@gmail.com> X-Original-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0533A6B1C; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:10:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4+630anInu8h; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f165.google.com (mail-gx0-f165.google.com [209.85.217.165]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C59C3A684E; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so2179356gxk.13 for <multiple recipients>; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=O1a18HrTsd7l+bPgyv9YT5rHCOP0pzQUQv/5cIBwbQY=; b=F5GctCoZsA1luOTyj0VgPHufMdra+tuKyL0s3zFeZJMbY127jLPKp0DyJsJ2n4ZUa+ 3oOyhsaudNT5+81pVeXtFQ4zv/alXvsiL8DFeQJKfrFvbeTJ0j0kjaKatL5xq5wHTdCI GcGsAQEPhSc4OjgRUNHKYVV6e/F5tiz0gmyx0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=TARE6hEuQqDIvXXgkpyq4a2dgX2fqfJS66igyNAjS4kM5cBYzU+7ydCwHgiZK57ALn rlS1EHugpmAO7B1l2BGvZE/i81ch7GFER1QaICLhl6rjCBI0hwxIMGTxHBxROIK1GIpB D/bbcVoqUiOZrIRHwzZmMO2C+D9GtbryxTyXI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.16.74 with SMTP id n10mr1120752iba.23.1237234298949; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:11:38 -0700 Message-ID: <f1548840903161311y5714d123oe7bece57662d6bd0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Pls review draft-lebovitz-kmart-roadmap-01.txt From: Gregory Lebovitz <gregory.ietf@gmail.com> To: kmart@ietf.org, saag@ietf.org, rtgwg@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325574d7ae491c50465420e7a X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:16:38 -0700 Cc: Ross Callon <rcallon@juniper.net>, Tim Polk <tim.polk@nist.gov>, Pasi Eronen <pasi.eronen@nokia.com>, Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <rtgwg.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg>, <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg> List-Post: <mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg>, <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:10:58 -0000 --000325574d7ae491c50465420e7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all, The -01 draft that captures the goals, definition of work, and order of priorities for securing routing protocol transports is here: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lebovitz-kmart-roadmap-01.txt This represents joint work of the IAB, RTG and SAAG areas, under the guidance of the ADs of both. This document will be presented in IETF74 at: - RTG WG - SAAG - SIDR (brief advertisement) - Others ? (pls let me know) Pls respond with comments to me, and cc the kmart@ietf.org mail list. Gregory. -- ---- IETF related email from Gregory M. Lebovitz Juniper Networks --000325574d7ae491c50465420e7a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div>Hey all,</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>The -01 draft that captures the goals, definition of work, and order o= f priorities for securing routing protocol transports is here:</div> <div>=A0=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lebovitz-k= mart-roadmap-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lebovitz-kma= rt-roadmap-01.txt</a> </div> <div>=A0</div> <div>This represents joint work of the IAB, RTG and SAAG areas, under the g= uidance of the ADs of both.</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>This document will be presented in IETF74=A0at:</div> <div>=A0- RTG WG</div> <div>=A0- SAAG</div> <div>=A0- SIDR (brief advertisement)</div> <div>=A0- Others ? (pls let me know)</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Pls respond with comments to me, and cc the <a href=3D"mailto:kmart@ie= tf.org">kmart@ietf.org</a> mail list.</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Gregory.<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>----<br>IETF related email from<b= r>Gregory M. Lebovitz<br>Juniper Networks<br></div> --000325574d7ae491c50465420e7a-- From lberger@labn.net Mon Mar 23 16:25:51 2009 Return-Path: <lberger@labn.net> X-Original-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FB63A6C52 for <rtgwg@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:25:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.709 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.709 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.556, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wHBbm8Qa-gWm for <rtgwg@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-148.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-148.bluehost.com [67.222.38.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 70E5F3A6C48 for <rtgwg@ietf.org>; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6475 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2009 23:23:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box474.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.74) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2009 23:23:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=PNmZme1cnaK4MdhlcMjkk/kOe5I7Fplu2PhC3ykcvU4f1VlpCUMzSYXgwpfM0uuAZaCisqnO10GcdWlBEObLhoEXy9zb9vSqxwt5WLcSd/sMewJBqPWHOQ5vV/zXK3eT; Received: from box474.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.74] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box474.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <lberger@labn.net>) id 1LltXU-00083u-Vf for rtgwg@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:26:41 -0600 Message-ID: <49C81AC0.2000500@labn.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:26:56 -0700 From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090108 Eudora/3.0b1pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: comment on draft-so-yong-mpls-ctg-framework-requirement-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {2629:box474.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 74.220.219.74 authed with lberger@labn.net} X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <rtgwg.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg>, <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg> List-Post: <mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg>, <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:25:51 -0000 Per Alex's request: My point was that it would be useful to have a requirements document that: 1) identified the issues with today's solutions 2) identified operational requirements for an alternate solution The document has a good start (or however Dave phrased id) of 1 in section 3. The document has a start on 2, but does so only in the context of a particular solution/approach, i.e., "Composite Transport Group Requirements". For example the document states: Composite Transport Group (CTG) provides the local traffic engineering management/transport over multiple parallel links that solves this problem in MPLS networks. .... and Composite Transport Group (CTG) is the TE method to transport aggregated traffic over a composite link. .... I think it would be really useful to identify the carrier requirements independent of the CTG solution. For example the document could state: - the solution must support multiple component links with different administrative costs - the solution must support multiple routing instances per router - the solution must support RSVP-TE LSPs - the solution must support LDP LSPs .... Once there is a clear understanding of requirements we can judge if the proposed solution is the one that the community wants to progress (or if there are alternatives.) Hope this clarifies the point. Lou
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