Re: [Rucus] Reading list for BoF

["Saverio Niccolini" <[e-mail]>]

Hi, 

David just submitted a problem statement draft which I think it is interesting to read:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schwartz-rucus-problem-statement-01.txt
(even if my view is more to see RFC5039 as problem statement document legitimating RUCUS)

where there are some nice points made that are also reflected in:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-seedorf-sipping-spam-score-semantics-00.txt

I see a very important point written there: "Unwanted communication is subjective - not objective"

This is really true and we can not forget it when talking about RUCUS.

A sentence taken from the spam score semantice draft also raises the issue:
"Whether a message is spam or not is not a binary proposition, both
in terms of identifying it (mechanisms will have false positives
and false negatives) and even in judging it (e.g., depending on
user preferences)."

Saverio

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] 
> On Behalf Of Saverio Niccolini
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:30 PM
> To: rucus BoF
> Subject: Re: [Rucus] Reading list for BoF
> 
> Hi,
> 
> there are already some drafts out:
> 
> -- new version for SPITSTOP draft (-01)
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-niccolini-sipping-spitstop-01
> -- new version of the spam score draft (-01)
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wing-sipping-spam-score-01
> -- new draft on spam score semantics (-00)
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-seedorf-sipping-spam
> -score-semantics-00.txt
> -- new draft on SIP spam feedback (-00)
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-niccolini-sipping-spam-feedback-00
> 
> Also an update to the CAPTCHA draft based on recent discussion
> will follow, link will be posted as soons as it is submitted.
> 
> Cheers,
> Saverio
> 
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> Dr. Saverio Niccolini
> Senior Researcher
> NEC Laboratories Europe, Network Research Division	
> Kurfuerstenanlage 36, D-69115 Heidelberg
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] 
> > On Behalf Of Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:10 PM
> > To: Martin Stiemerling; rucus BoF
> > Subject: Re: [Rucus] Reading list for BoF
> > 
> > FYI, we are going to have more documents after the draft 
> > submission deadline. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] 
> > Im Auftrag 
> > > von ext Martin Stiemerling
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 18. Februar 2008 17:08
> > > An: rucus BoF
> > > Betreff: [Rucus] Reading list for BoF
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I'm currently trying to get an overview about what has 
> > happened in the 
> > > field of SPIT mitigation, i.e., editing a useful reading 
> > list for the 
> > > rucus bof.
> > > 
> > > Some possible documents to read:
> > > - RFC 5039
> > > - SIP Extensions for SPIT identification
> > > (draft-niccolini-sipping-feedback-spit-03)
> > > - Signaling TO Prevent SPIT (SPITSTOP) Reference Scenario
> > > draft-niccolini-sipping-spitstop-01)
> > > - Completely Automated Public Turing Test to Tell Computers 
> > and Humans 
> > > Apart (CAPTCHA) based Robot Challenges for the Session Initiation 
> > > Protocol (SIP)
> > > (draft-tschofenig-sipping-captcha-00.txt)
> > > - A Framework to tackle Spam and Unwanted Communication for 
> > > Internet                        Telephony 
> > > (draft-tschofenig-sipping-framework-spit-reduction-02.txt)
> > > A Document Format for Expressing Authorization Policies to 
> > tackle Spam 
> > > and Unwanted Communication for Internet Telephony
> > > (draft-tschofenig-sipping-spit-policy-02.txt)
> > > - Spam feedback for SIP 
> > (draft-niccolini-sipping-spam-feedback-00.txt)
> > > - Spam Score for SIP (draft-wing-sipping-spam-score-01.txt)
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Martin
> > > 
> > > 
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