Notes from Memphis meeting
Jacob Palme <jpalme@dsv.su.se> Thu, 10 April 1997 13:15 UTC
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From: Jacob Palme <jpalme@dsv.su.se>
Subject: Notes from Memphis meeting
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I am not a member of this mailing list, so if you reply, cc your reply to my personal e-mail address. Below is my personal notes from the discussion in the RUN group in Memphis. In this document, the word spam is used as a term for certain kinds of undesirable messages on the Internet. This use of the word spam has nothing to do with the trademark for company YYY for its products XXX. There is a general draft on responsible use of the Internet, but there is a need for one or more new documents on responsible advertising on the net. The chairman thought that the word "spam" could not be used because it is a trademark of a meat product. Other people said that this is no problem, since e-mail advertising is a different area than meat products. But other people said that negative connotations of a trade-mark is forbidden also in other areas. An alternative word "spew" was not liked by the group. There is an Internet draft "draft-ietf-run-spew-00.txt" which we discussed. I suggested that the document must contain a definition of what is accepted and not accepted. For example, is it permitted to send advertising to people who have voluntarily subscribed to mailing lists for sending out commercial information (yes). Is it permitted to require people to provide their e-mail addresses in order to buy products or get free samples (maybe)? To what extent can an e-mail address given by a person for use to send news about a certain product be used to send information about other products? There was some discussion on which actions against spamming are acceptable. Should one CC the local postmaster or not? This may be causing more problems, not helping anyone. Some organisations have special "abuse@domains" to which you can send complaints about abuse. There was discussion that the federal government in the U.S. could prosecute spammers for misusing their computing resources. Companies with many e-mail users could also do the same. Mailing list allow "unsub". You should not sell mailing lists. Clarify how a list is to be used before soliciting members to the list. All advertising messages must clearly indicate who is responsible for them. Do not munge e-mail headers. Telling people how to unsubscribe from the list is not enough to make spamming acceptable, especially since spammers often use one-time mailing lists, so that your unsubscribe messages do not gain you anything. Advice people about alternative, legal means of advertising on the net and in other places. Blinking banner advertisments could be avoided by plug-ins to your web browser which stops such banners (disable blinking in Netscape, disable moving ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jacob Palme <jpalme@dsv.su.se> (Stockholm University and KTH) for more info see URL: http://www.dsv.su.se/~jpalme
- Notes from Memphis meeting Jacob Palme