Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-06
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Thu, 03 September 2015 20:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draft-iab-crypto-alg-agility-06
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On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 04:08:59PM -0400, Russ Housley wrote: > > It can be a sentence or two, just enough to not give the impression > > that weak crypto is preferred with OS. > > The words in my current edit buffer are: > > Despite the guidance in Section 2.4, opportunistic security [RFC7435] > also deserves consideration, especially at the time a protocol > implementation is deployed and configured. Using algorithms that are > weak against advanced attackers but sufficient against others is one > way to make pervasive surveillance significantly more difficult. As > a result, algorithms that would not be acceptable in many negotiated > situations are acceptable for opportunistic security when legacy > systems are in use for unauthenticated encrypted sessions as > discussed in Section 3 of [RFC7435] as long as their use does not > facilitate downgrade attacks. Similarly, weaker algorithms and > shorter key sizes are also acceptable for opportunistic security with > the same constraints. That said, the use of strong algorithms is > always preferable. > > Would it help to change "As a result" to "As a result, when communicating > parties do not have strong algorithms in common"? You're heading in the right direction, but I think this is a sentence or so too late. The sentence that starts with "Using algorithms that are weak ..." is troublesome. How about: Using the strongest available encryption (even if not strong enough for mandatory security) is one way ... And then perhaps still make the additional change you're proposing. -- Viktor.
- [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draft-ia… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Eliot Lear
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Steve Crocker
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Salz, Rich
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Russ Housley
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Russ Housley
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Sam Hartman
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Barry Leiba
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Russ Housley
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Russ Housley
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Russ Housley
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Sam Hartman
- Re: [saag] Section 2.9: was Re: AD review of draf… Kathleen Moriarty