Re: [saag] Fw:Fw:New Version Notification for draft-cui-dhc-dhcpv6-encryption-02.txt

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Sat, 01 August 2015 02:17 UTC

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> The trick is to find a coffee house that has its own WIFI - and gives
> you a password.

(arbitrary) username and password (see firesheep), and does not use tkip
[0] and ...

pita

March 15, 2016: (Reuters) Over 1,000 WiFi users at Edgeware Starbucks
have their identities stolen and bank accounts emptied.  Banks laugh as
UK laws leave the liability with the customer, not the bank.

randy

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[0] - very likely the praha ietf network suffered the tkip attack (among
      others).  in response, tkip was quickly disabled.