Re: [saag] should we revise rfc 3365?

Mouse <mouse@Rodents-Montreal.ORG> Tue, 29 May 2012 18:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [saag] should we revise rfc 3365?
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> For smart objects (you call them low-power devices) the approach is
> still to provide security or otherwise not connect them to the
> Internet.

That may be the approach the IETF would prefer, but the IETF is not in
a position to do that, to prevent people from connecting devices to the
Internet based on whether they speak protocols the IETF doesn't like.

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