Re: [salud] Updates to section 6
Laura Liess <laura.liess.dt@googlemail.com> Thu, 28 March 2013 20:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [salud] Updates to section 6
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The "locale:country:<ISO 3166-1 country code> " seems to be some kind of different and difficult. Now that we have the "private-name " stuff working fine, why not use it for country specific tones? Instead of "urn:alert:locale:country:de:foo:bar" we would have "urn:alert:foo@de:bar". Or is something wrong with it? Laura 2013/3/28 Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> > Hi Dale, > > Comments inline. > > > On 3/28/13 8:39 AM, Dale R. Worley wrote: > >> I suggest the following edits to section 6 to clarify the registration >> process and to align the syntax terminology with the new ABNF. The >> changes are marked in the left margin with "-" and "+". >> >> I have a number of questions and comments at the beginning of this >> text. >> >> Comments? >> >> Dale >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> ---------- >> --- 07-section-6 2013-03-27 20:09:39.713133697 -0400 >> +++ 07-updated-section-6 2013-03-27 20:35:12.872213564 -0400 >> @@ -1,224 +1,250 @@ >> +[[ Where did this rule come from? >> + Each <alert-category> or <alert-indication> label MUST NOT exceed 27 >> + characters. >> + Can/should we maintain this rule given that we allow punycode labels >> + in FQDNs? >> + (I have a memory that there is a restriction on host name labels to >> + be no longer than 27 characters, but I could not find that stated >> + in any RFC.) >> > > I don't know. I see no reason to keep it. > > > +I've removed "and the rules to combine them [i.e., <alert-label>s]" >> +from the description at the beginning of section 6.1 because for >> +registered URNs, the only rule needed is "use only the combinations >> +listed in the registry". >> > > OK. > > > +We say "The policy for adding <alert-indication>s may differ for each >> +<alert-category> and MUST be defined by the document describing the >> +corresponding <alert-category>." But we do not state the policy for >> +the standard <alert-category>s. And I do not remember what we decided >> +that policy should be. >> > > Note I commented on a related issue re "local" below. *That* category > needs a different rule from all the others, in that subordinates to > "local:country" may not be registered via the iana process. But I suppose > alternatives to default and country may be added as in any other. > > Otherwise I suggest we just specify that adding <alert-indication>s > subordinate to any of the <alert-category>s defined in *this* document is > Standards Action. > > Or we could take the easy way out and simply say that its Standards Action > for everything. (Except for private ones of course.) > > > +I've removed the entries like this: >> + >> + service:<private-name> RFC XXXX Reserved for private >> + extensions >> + >> +because they are not enabled by the registration process, but rather >> +by the extension rules of section 7. >> > > OK > > [snip] > > > 6.2.6. The "locale" alert-category and alert-identifiers >> >> The following table contains the initial IANA registration for the >> "locale" <alert-category> and <alert-identifier>s. The value of this >> - indicator provides information about the location of the user at the >> - other side of the call. >> + indicator provides information suggests that alerting signals >> + characteristic of the specified location should be used. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Liess, et al. Expires April 5, 2013 [Page 21] >> >> Internet-Draft Alert-Info URNs October 2012 >> >> >> - <alert-category>/ Reference Description >> + <alert-category> or Reference Description >> <alert-identifier> >> ------------------------------**----------------------------- >> locale RFC XXXX <alert-category> >> for "locale" <alert-identifier> >> locale:default RFC XXXX Alerting not location >> specific >> (default value) >> locale:country:<ISO 3166-1 country code> >> RFC XXXX Country-specific alerting >> - locale:<private-name> RFC XXXX Reserved for private >> - extensions >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> ---------- >> > > I'm wondering about the registration for country codes. I don't know if it > is clear here what IANA should do. Does this mean: > > - IANA should go out and get a copy of the ISO 3166-1 list and populate it > into their own table? > > - Specific country codes must be registered by some specification, but > must conform to 3166-1? > > Clearly we *intend* that individual country codes will not be listed in > the IANA table, but rather are implicitly included by reference. How do we > say that? > > Thanks, > Paul > > > ______________________________**_________________ > salud mailing list > salud@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/salud<https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/salud> >
- Re: [salud] Updates to section 6 Laura Liess
- [salud] Updates to section 6 Dale R. Worley
- Re: [salud] Updates to section 6 Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [salud] Updates to section 6 Laura Liess
- Re: [salud] Updates to section 6 Laura Liess
- Re: [salud] Updates to section 6 Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [salud] Updates to section 6 Dale R. Worley
- Re: [salud] Updates to section 6 Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [salud] Update 2 to section 6 Dale R. Worley
- Re: [salud] Update 2 to section 6 Paul Kyzivat