Re: [sasl] Mechanism Negotiation and Channel Binding with SCRAM

Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu> Tue, 02 March 2010 00:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sasl] Mechanism Negotiation and Channel Binding with SCRAM
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--On Monday, March 01, 2010 05:19:01 PM -0600 Nicolas Williams 
<Nicolas.Williams@sun.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 12:10:49AM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>> Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com> writes:
>> > I see no real change.  I think we want to s/MUST select/selects/ to go
>> > from normative to declarative language.
>>
>> That seems simpler.
>>
>> > [...]
>>
>> Seems good to me, although it needs to be adapted to GS2 as well.
>>
>> The question remains if we want to make this change now or not.  Both
>> SCRAM and GS2 needs to be updated.  Your proposed change wouldn't be the
>> most minimal fix, but maybe clarity is better served by rewriting these
>> paragraphs.
>
> Does anyone else have an opinion on this?  I'd be happy doing: a)
> nothing, b) changing a couple of normative MUSTs into declaratives, c)
> re-writing some of these as I proposed.
>
> _Now_ is the time to ask.

I'm inclined to leave it as-is, simply because quite a few people have 
thought rather carefully about how the negotiation process covers all the 
possible cases, and relaxing a requirement risks invalidating an assumption 
that someone made during that evaluation.

However, I don't feel terribly strongly about it.