Re: [sasl] Kitten Recharter
Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu> Fri, 18 June 2010 01:22 UTC
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:22:38 -0400
From: Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu>
To: Shawn Emery <shawn.emery@oracle.com>, Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>
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Subject: Re: [sasl] Kitten Recharter
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--On Thursday, June 17, 2010 06:44:08 PM -0600 Shawn Emery <shawn.emery@oracle.com> wrote: > On 06/11/10 11:40 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >> Shawn Emery wrote: >> >>> Per the recent thead on "MOGGIES Proposed Charter"; I have taken >>> suggestions by kitten/SASL WG members and created recharter text for >>> Kitten (whilst closing SASL). Please let me know if I missed anything. >>> >>> Shawn. >>> Kitten co-chair. >> >> Hi Sean, >> Thanks for the updated version. This looks much better. > > Thanks. > >> Some additional comments inline. >> >>> Kitten (Common Authentication Technology Next Generation) >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>> * Provide a more programmer friendly interface for application >>> developers. >>> >>> >> This point is a bit vague. Do we actually need this as an explicit goal? > > Do you want more details on how this will be accomplished? For example: > > * Provide a more programmer friendly GSS-API for application developers. > This could include reducing the number of interface parameters, > eliminating those whose values' are commonly used. > > <snip> >>> This WG should review proposals for new SASL and GSS-API mechanisms. >>> The WG >>> should also review non-mechanism proposals related to SASL and the >>> GSS-API. >>> >> I think this is a bit too open-ended for IESG. I would have asked >> about that if I were asked to review such charter ;-). >> >> To be frank, I would delete these 2 sentences, or say the exactly >> opposite: other proposals would require rechartering. However chairs >> always have some flexibility in allowing conversations on related >> topics, as long as this doesn't compromise progress on major >> deliverables. > > I've read the follow-up thread between you and Hutzelman, and concluded > that the following clarification should be made: > > This WG should review proposals for new SASL and GSS-API mechanisms. The > WG should also review non-mechanism proposals related to SASL and the > GSS-API. However, work that adds SASL or GSS-API support in application > protocols should be handled by the application's WG. To the first sentence, add "but may take on work on such mechanisms only through a revision of this charter". Then I think you'll have captured the gist of the discussion. -- Jeff
- [sasl] Kitten Recharter Shawn Emery
- Re: [sasl] Kitten Recharter Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [sasl] Kitten Recharter Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [sasl] Kitten Recharter Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [sasl] Kitten Recharter Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [sasl] Kitten Recharter Shawn Emery
- Re: [sasl] Kitten Recharter Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [sasl] Kitten Recharter Alexey Melnikov