[savnet] Re: Ketan Talaulikar's Discuss on draft-ietf-savnet-intra-domain-problem-statement-23: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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Subject: [savnet] Re: Ketan Talaulikar's Discuss on draft-ietf-savnet-intra-domain-problem-statement-23: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 4/19/26 13:54, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wrote:
>
> Hence, I would like to suggest the following further refinement of 
> Ketan’s definitions:
>
> -----------
>
> *Intra-domain SAV:* The AS validates source addresses in data traffic 
> it originates directly or indirectly (e.g., from a subnet of a 
> customer with no AS). Intra-domain SAV is applied on traffic 
> originating on interfaces (on AS border routers) on which (a) a single 
> host or a set of hosts are connected, or (b) a customer with no AS or 
> without a public AS – managing one or more subnets – is connected.
>
>
This is a lot of contortion to avoid saying "an interface not connected 
to the public Internet".

Of course, things just get uglier when interfaces are hybrid 
Internet/internal.

-- Jeff