Re: [scim] SCIM Events - Notes on draft 04 - Removal of Appendix A

"Saxe, Dean" <deansaxe@amazon.com> Mon, 27 November 2023 23:51 UTC

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Thread-Topic: [scim] SCIM Events - Notes on draft 04 - Removal of Appendix A
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From: "Saxe, Dean" <deansaxe@amazon.com>
To: Phillip Hunt <phil.hunt@independentid.com>, SCIM WG <scim@ietf.org>
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Thanks Phillip.  If you have any questions on my issues or PRs, please let me know.
-dhs

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From: scim <scim-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Phillip Hunt <phil.hunt@independentid.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:52 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [scim] SCIM Events - Notes on draft 04 - Removal of Appendix A


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Hi All,

I have updated the github version of the draft (https://github.com/ietf-scim-wg/draft-ietf-scim-events/blob/main/draft-ietf-scim-events-04.txt) as per the discussion at the Prague meeting along with Deans changes today.

—> My intent is to also remove Appendix A as that was really meant to inform discussion as the specification was developed and finalized. My thought is if useful some of it can go into the SCIM Use Cases document.

Also, per issue 13 from Dean, I am taking a look at the use of SCIM Service Provider vs. Client, and SET Transmitter and Receiver and their relationship with SCIM SPs and clients as a point of clarification.

Phil
phil.hunt@independentid.com