[SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts-ccf-profile-04.txt> (CCF Profile for COSE Receipts) to Proposed Standard
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Subject: [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts-ccf-profile-04.txt> (CCF Profile for COSE Receipts) to Proposed Standard
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All, I am evaluating this profile as the transparency-anchoring layer for AIC-JWT (draft-wei-aic-jwt-00), a JOSE-based agent identity token whose validation pipeline and audit records we implement in Go and in browser WebCrypto. Three comments, one of which is a request for clarification rather than a defect. 1. Binding a non-COSE statement to the receipt (interop). The profile defines the verifiable data structure and the inclusion proof, but the receipt's binding to the signed statement implicitly assumes a COSE_Sign1 whose payload is the covered data. When the statement to be anchored is a JOSE token (in our case a nested JWS with an inner principal-signed DelegationAuthorization), there is no specified way to reference or embed that statement so a verifier can recompute the leaf deterministically. draft-noa-scitt-ai-agent-receipt-01 will profile receipts for agent actions whose authority evidence may be JOSE. It would help if the profile (or the receipt architecture it builds on) stated whether the covered data is always the COSE payload bytes and, if not, how a non-COSE statement is normalized before the leaf is computed (e.g., a digest over the JWS compact serialization). Two deployments computing different leaves for the same JOSE statement would yield non-interoperable receipts -- the same class of problem as the deterministic-encoding discussion on this list. 2. Single-transaction trees (supporting Iman's point). I agree with the observation on the ccf-inclusion-proof path cardinality: a valid inclusion proof for a single-transaction tree has an empty path, and [* ccf-proof-element] matches the verification algorithm in Section 3.2. Please adopt that cardinality. 3. Evidence semantics vs current token validity (suggestion for Security Considerations). A receipt is evidence of a past inclusion. When the anchored statement is a short-lived agent token that has since expired or been revoked via a status list, the receipt still proves the past inclusion -- that is exactly the property agent accountability needs, because the decision evidence outlives the token. One sentence stating that receipt verification does not and must not depend on the current validity of the anchored statement would prevent implementers from accidentally coupling the two. Happy to provide test vectors or run the profile against our Go and WebCrypto implementations. Best, Jijie Wei
- [SCITT] Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts-ccf… The IESG
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Iman Schrock
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Joel Hillier
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Nicholas Templeman
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Joel Hillier
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Nicholas Templeman
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Walter Hawkins
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Iman Schrock
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… e.dogru
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Joel Hillier
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Vernon Wharff
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Emek Can Dogru
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… nicholas
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Emek Can Dogru
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… nicholas
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Emek Can Dogru
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Konrad Gruszka
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Henri Sirkkavaara
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Nicholas Templeman
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Henri Sirkkavaara
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Emek Can Dogru
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Henri Sirkkavaara
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… pki
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Dick Brooks
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Jijie Wei
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Joel Hillier
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Chance Gamble
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Nicholas Templeman
- [SCITT] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-scitt-receipts… Jijie Wei