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Re: [SCITT] [EXTERNAL] Re: Slide Deck.

Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com> Thu, 21 July 2022 14:01 UTC

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From: Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com>
To: 'Eliot Lear' <lear@lear.ch>, 'Robert Martin' <ramartin@mitre.org>
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Subject: Re: [SCITT] [EXTERNAL] Re: Slide Deck.
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Eliot,

 

I don’t want to come off as combative but I see no evidence of this assertion in the materials posted by the IETF:

 

Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)                        S. Bradner

Request for Comments: 8179                            Harvard University

BCP: 79                                                     J. Contreras

Obsoletes: 3979, 4879                                 University of Utah

Updates: 2026                                                   May 2017

Category: Best Current Practice

ISSN: 2070-1721

 

 

Network Working Group                                            E. Lear

Internet-Draft                                             Cisco Systems

Updates: 8520 (if approved)                                   C. Bormann

Intended status: Standards Track                  Universität Bremen TZI

Expires: 26 October 2022                                   24 April 2022

 

 

               Ownership and licensing statements in YANG

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Network Working Group                                          J. Postel

Request for Comments: 1818                                           ISI

BCP: 1                                                             T. Li

Category: Best Current Practice                            cisco Systems

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I personally worked on the work group that created RFC 1767:

Network Working Group                                         D. Crocker

Request for Comments: 1767                        Brandenburg Consulting

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Thanks,

 

Dick Brooks

  

Active Member of the CISA Critical Manufacturing Sector, 

Sector Coordinating Council – A Public-Private Partnership

 

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From: Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> 
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Subject: Re: [SCITT] [EXTERNAL] Re: Slide Deck.

 

Hi Dick,

On 21.07.22 15:22, Dick Brooks wrote:

Eliot,

 

I have no doubt that your concerns are valid, as it pertains to the views of the Area Director and the approval to charter a workgroup. 

It's not just the area director.  It is entirely counter-cultural to name companies at the IETF.*  We participate as individuals.  It just rubs people the wrong way.  Why unnecessarily create that friction?  

Eliot

* It is not counter-cultural to name implementations, especially when talking about interoperability issues, or when one is using an example.

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