[Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of meeting 122 presentation (Formal proof of insecurity of Intel's RA-TLS and draft-fossati-tls-attestation)
Muhammad Usama Sardar <muhammad_usama.sardar@tu-dresden.de> Fri, 09 January 2026 19:57 UTC
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Subject: [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of meeting 122 presentation (Formal proof of insecurity of Intel's RA-TLS and draft-fossati-tls-attestation)
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Hi Kathleen, On 09.01.26 20:34, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: > I’m in agreement with Justin and I think it’s clear from my first email. Sincere apologies; your statement is still not clear to me. Could you please explain/rephrase/clarify what exactly you mean by this statement and how this is relevant to the discussion in this thread? "Hundreds of protocols and formats in the IETF use TLS, so it does not make sense to RAT-hole on attestation whenever TLS comes up." -Usama
- [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Follow-up of meeting 122 prese… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of meeting 122 p… Pieter Kasselman
- [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of meeting 122 p… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of meeting 122 p… Arndt Schwenkschuster
- [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Follow-up of meeting 122 prese… John Kemp
- [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of meeting 122 p… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of meeting 122 p… Yaron Sheffer
- [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of meeting 122 p… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of meeting 122 p… Henk Birkholz
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up o… Kathleen Moriarty
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up o… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of me… Justin Richer
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of me… Kathleen Moriarty
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of me… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of me… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up of me… John Kemp
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up o… Manu Fontaine
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up o… Nathanael Ritz
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up o… Manu Fontaine
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up o… Mandyam, Giridhar
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: Re: [WIMSE] Re: Follow-up o… Kathleen Moriarty
- [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Re: [Rats] Re: Re: Re: Follow-… Joseph Salowey
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Fol… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] [WIMSE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Follow-… John Kemp
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] [WIMSE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Follow-… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] [WIMSE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Follow-… John Kemp
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] [WIMSE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Follow-… Nathanael Ritz
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] [WIMSE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Follow-… John Kemp
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] [WIMSE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Follow-… Paul Wouters
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] [WIMSE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Follow-… Paul Wouters
- [Seat] Re: [Rats] [WIMSE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Follow-… Justin Richer