Re: [secdir] [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-add-ddr-08

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Fri, 08 July 2022 17:35 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2022 10:35:11 -0700
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Subject: Re: [secdir] [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-add-ddr-08
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OK, I agree that the document is not a step backward. It is not worse than
what goes on now.

But shouldn't the document address the main technical problem directly,
rather than obliquely? That would be the "bootstrapping" issue. For
example, HSTS preload lists and just hardcoding 1.1.1.1 or similar
address bootstrapping problems where it's not clear whether to use an
encrypted protocol.

thanks,
Rob

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 6:22 AM Ben Schwartz <bemasc@google.com> wrote:

> None of the issues I've identified here would lead to
> compatibility-breaking changes.  Thus, in my view, the draft's technical
> content is essentially complete and acceptable, and the remaining changes
> are in the presentation, explanation, and perhaps some corner-case
> behaviors.
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 5:50 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 12:36 PM Benjamin Schwartz via Datatracker <
>> noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Reviewer: Benjamin Schwartz
>>> Review result: Has Issues
>>>
>>> I think there are some interesting open questions about the structure of
>>> this
>>> document, and some details about how recommendations are described, but
>>> the
>>> technical components are sound.
>>>
>>
>> Are the technical components sound? That's not clear to me, but I'd like
>> to know more about your rationale.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Rob
>>
>>
>