Re: [secdir] [nfsv4] SECDIR Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-umask-03

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Sat, 03 June 2017 01:06 UTC

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Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 20:06:02 -0500
From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
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Subject: Re: [secdir] [nfsv4] SECDIR Review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-umask-03
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On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 08:32:15PM -0400, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:23 AM, David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> wrote:
> Instead of using GSS which is a framework for fifty shades of almost always
> password auth, I would move to authenticating and encrypting using public
> key based credentials.

What are you on about??

GSS-API has a number of mechanisms, including:

 - Kerberos V5 [RFC4121]

 - PKU2U, which is PKIX based (no reference, as it's not yet
   standardized at the IETF)

 - SCRAM (password based)

and others.

Nico
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