Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-v6ops-tunnel-loops-01
Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Mon, 03 January 2011 20:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-v6ops-tunnel-loops-01
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On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Tom Yu wrote: > Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> writes: > >> Question for you. I have left the authors off the paper for the moment. >> >> Mr Gont has recently posted a draft: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-6man-teredo-loops >> "Mitigating Teredo Rooting Loop Attacks", Fernando Gont, 7-Sep-10, >> <draft-gont-6man-teredo-loops-00.txt> >> >> and is pushing for adoption as a working group draft. When asked to >> consider merging his paper with this or another draft, he has been >> unwilling. The chairs have basically told him to discuss his draft >> on the list "and we'll see where it goes". > > The draft filename implies 6man, not v6ops; which working group was > asked to consider it? By "his paper", do you mean the following item > in the Informative References of draft-gont-6man-teredo-loops-00? True. he has none-the-less been asking me to make it a v6ops working group draft. > [CPNI-IPv6] > Gont, F., "Security Assessment of the Internet Protocol > version 6 (IPv6)", UK Centre for the Protection of > National Infrastructure, (to be published). > > The Teredo attacks and the protocol-41 attacks appear to be mostly > separate, and probably don't interact, with the possible exception of > using a protocol-41 tunnel to initiate a Teredo routing loop attack. >> One of your criticisms of this draft is that it doesn't cover his >> USENIX material. Would you prefer that this and Mr Gont's draft be >> merged? > > A reader of this draft might erroneously conclude that it adequately > addresses all of the attacks described in the USENIX paper. However, > I think it's sufficient to mention the existence of the Teredo > attacks, citing the USENIX paper and the Teredo routing loop draft, > because someone who reads draft-ietf-v6ops-tunnel-loops might not be > aware of the related attacks without reading the actual USENIX paper. So you're simply looking for a reference? OK. > It would also be a good idea to briefly state that the Teredo attacks > are mostly separate from the protocol-41 attacks, and are therefore > treated in another document. OK.
- [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-v6ops-tunnel… Tom Yu
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-v6ops-tu… Fred Baker
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-v6ops-tu… Tom Yu
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-v6ops-tu… Fred Baker
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-v6ops-tu… Tom Yu
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-v6ops-tu… Gabi Nakibly