Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-turn-uri-03.txt
Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@acm.org> Wed, 21 October 2009 16:51 UTC
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Thanks Magnus and Juergen. See comment inline. Magnus Westerlund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder skrev: >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:01:06PM +0200, Magnus Westerlund wrote: >> >>> I do understand your confusion. RFC 5389 is STUN. TURN is an extension >>> of STUN, and TURN mandates authentication. The default to use mechanism >>> however, is defined in STUN, thus the reference to RFC 5389. >> Thanks, now I understand this better. So does this wording describe >> the situation correctly: >> >> This is achieved for "turn" URIs by the Long-Term Credential >> Mechanism defined in [RFC5389], which is mandatory for TURN >> [RFCxxx]. For a "turns" URI, the usage of TLS addresses the >> requirement." >> >> Having both references would have helped me to understand the >> situation better (showing my ignorance of TURN ;-). > > Yes, I think that part is good. > > I would note that TLS may not be sufficient for reaching the > authentication goal. Only that is has the capability to reach them. But > also for TLS you can use the Long-Term Credential mechanism to > authenticate the user of a TURN server. Here the modified proposed text that should address all your concerns. Let me know if this is OK: "The Application Service Tag and Application Protocol Tags defined in this document do not introduce any specific security issues beyond the security considerations discussed in [RFC3958]. [RFC3958] requests that an S-NAPTR application defines some form of end-to-end authentication to ensure that the correct destination has been reached. This is achieved for "turn" and "turns" URIs by the Long- Term Credential Mechanism defined in [RFC5389], which is mandatory for TURN [I-D.ietf-behave-turn]. Additionally for a "turns" URI, the usage of TLS has the capability to address the requirement." -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Personal email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Professional email: petithug@acm.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org
- [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-turn-… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-t… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-t… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-t… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-t… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-t… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-t… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-t… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-t… Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-behave-t… Marc Petit-Huguenin